Jan. 6 hearing will show evidence of Trump’s role in fake voter scheme, Schiff says

“Yes, we will show evidence of the president’s involvement in this scheme. We will also show again evidence of what his own attorneys have come to think of this scheme,” the California Democrat told CNN’s Dana Bash. on the “State of the Union”. “And we will show brave state officials who stood up and said they would not go along with this plan to recall lawmakers in session or decertify the results for Joe Biden.”

Federal prosecutors are examining bogus Electoral College certifications created by Trump allies that falsely declared him the winner of seven states he lost in 2020. The fake certificates were sent to the National Archives in the weeks following the election and had no impact on the ballot. results.

When specifically asked if the committee investigating the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the U.S. Capitol had any evidence that Trump ran the fake voter scheme, Schiff replied, “I don’t want to preempt our hearing.”

“We’ll show during the hearing what the president’s role was in trying to get states to name alternative voter lists, how that scheme initially depended on the hope that lawmakers would come together again and bless him. “, he said, adding, “We’ll show you what we know about his role in this.”

The committee’s upcoming hearing on Tuesday will also feature Georgia election officials and the Arizona House speaker who stood up to pressure from Trump and his campaign to overturn the 2020 election results.

Schiff also said the committee still has “several key people that we haven’t interviewed, we’d like to do” and could still possibly subpoena former Vice President Mike Pence as part of its investigation.

“(It’s) definitely a possibility,” Schiff said. “We’re not ruling out anyone or anything at this point.”

Also on Sunday, another January 6 House panelist said there must be ‘accountability’ for wrongdoing displayed in evidence and testimony before the select committee, but refrained from calling the department Justice to indict Trump.

Democratic Rep. Jamie Raskin of Maryland told NBC’s “Meet the Press” that “accountability can mean two things. One is individual criminal accountability that people pay for their particular crimes, because over 800 people have already been prosecuted for everything from assaulting a federal government officer to intervening in a federal seditious conspiracy proceeding.”

“But responsibility also means collective responsibility, and that’s the real project,” he continued. “Telling the truth to the people so that we can make decisions about how to strengthen democratic institutions in the future.”

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Meanwhile, when asked by Bash about the committee’s Jan. 6 decision not to turn over documents related to its investigation to the DOJ, Schiff defended the panel’s position, saying, “I don’t think Congress has ever done that. .”

“I now participate in several investigations where there have been parallel investigations conducted by the Department of Justice. Congress never says, ‘Hey, Department of Justice, other branch of government, come and go through our records. We’re also not saying, ‘Hey, we want to drop by and browse your files,'” he said.

The Justice Department had raised concerns in court that the select committee had not shared the transcripts and was jeopardizing its ability to prosecute and investigate the January 6 events.

Schiff said the committee will work with the DOJ and “want them to be successful in bringing people to justice, but I can’t get into the private conversations.”

When pressed by Bash as to why the committee did not call witnesses who could challenge the panel, Schiff defended the committee’s choice of witnesses.

“We are interviewing, frankly, anyone with relevant evidence,” he said. “We put that relevant evidence in front of the public, and we do it in the most consistent way that we can get the salient points across to the public.”

Schiff also addressed the letter sent by the House Select Committee last week to Virginia “Ginni” Thomas, wife of Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas, asking her to speak with panelists about her role in efforts to overturn the 2020 election results.
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“We want to know what she knows, what her involvement was in this plot to overturn the election,” Schiff said. “She said she was willing to come and testify voluntarily. We are happy to hear that.”

CNN previously reported that the committee was in possession of email correspondence between Ginni Thomas and conservative attorney John Eastman, who was the architect of the pressure campaign around Pence and argued that the deputy President at the time had the legal power to block certification of the 2020 Election Results.

Schiff told CNN on Sunday that Judge Thomas should have “nothing to do” with insurgency-related cases.

“I think at a minimum it suggests – and I think we already know enough to say – that Judge Thomas, to avoid even the appearance of impropriety, should have nothing to do with matters relating to the January 6, in particular … regarding our investigation,” he said.

CNN’s Aaron Pellish contributed to this report.

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